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PBMs on Trial: The Practical Implications of SCOTUS’s Rutledge v. PCMA Decision


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Today's episode provides members with an update on the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Rutledge v. PCMA. We cover what the Court’s ruling against PBMs means for pharmacy practice, and we talk with Rep. Buddy Carter about where PBM regulation goes from here.


Earl L. Buddy CarterEarl L. “Buddy” Carter is an experienced businessman, health care professional and faithful public servant. As the owner of Carter’s Pharmacy, Inc., South Georgians have trusted Buddy with their most valuable assets: their health, lives and families for more than thirty years. While running his business, he learned how to balance a budget and create jobs. He also saw firsthand the devastating impacts of government overregulation which drives his commitment to ensuring that the federal government creates policies to empower business instead of increasing burdens on America’s job creators. A committed public servant, Buddy previously served as the Mayor of Pooler, Georgia and in the Georgia General Assembly where he used his business experience to make government more efficient and responsive to the people. Buddy is serving his third term in the United States House of Representatives and is a member of the Committee on Energy and Commerce. As the only pharmacist serving in Congress, Buddy is the co-chair of the Community Pharmacy Caucus and is dedicated to working towards a health care system that provides more choices, less costs and better services. As the representative of the entire coast of Georgia, he is also a member of the Select Committee on Climate Change. A lifelong resident of the First District, Buddy was born and raised in Port Wentworth, Georgia and is a proud graduate of Young Harris College and the University of Georgia where he earned his Bachelor of Science in Pharmacy. Buddy married his college sweetheart, Amy. Buddy and Amy now reside in Pooler, Georgia and have three sons, three daughters-in-law and four grandchildren.

Nick GentileNick Gentile is the Director of Political Action Committee and Grassroots Engagement for the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists. In this position, he promotes ASHP’s grassroots mobilization efforts and its political action committee, ASHP-PAC. He received his bachelor’s degree from The American University, where he majored in political science and law in society. Prior to ASHP, Nick spent ten years at the National Association of Home Builders (NAHB) working in various positions within the government affairs department. He worked with state and local government affairs issues, federal relations, grassroots mobilization and BUILD-PAC (NAHB’s political action committee).

Tom KrausTom Kraus is Vice President for Government Relations at ASHP. He is a graduate of University of Michigan (BS Biology), Georgetown University Law Center (Doctor Of Law), and The Johns Hopkins University (MHS, Health Policy).

Tom previously served as the Chief of Staff and Associate Commissioner for Legislation at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. He was also a senior policy advisor to Sen. Ted Kennedy and Sen. Tom Harkin on the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, where he served as Deputy Staff Director for Health.

The information presented during the podcast reflects solely the opinions of the presenter. The information and materials are not, and are not intended as, a comprehensive source of drug information on this topic. The contents of the podcast have not been reviewed by ASHP, and should neither be interpreted as the official policies of ASHP, nor an endorsement of any product(s), nor should they be considered as a substitute for the professional judgment of the pharmacist or physician.